I’m not here to defend IS nor any other group, they all have their good and bad points, but no doubt that one of the best points of Dawlah is their sense of community. Not only regarding katibat and mujahideen but also their supporters and even online community.
Not saying that rebel groups need their own version of the Baqiyyah Family, but indeed they need to focus more on the support and unification of their own community.
The thing is, in IS’s perspective, it doesn’t matter who you are, as long as you are a supporter of Dawlah they will simply receive and support you, even if you don’t share the same ideas, they will in most of cases try to explain to you why things are the way they are and if you commit any mistake, they might fight you, but they wont turn their back to you.
IS supporters care about knowing each other, and even if they don’t, they have total conscience that you are their brother/sister and they will be there for you. So if you ended up in a “beef” with someone from a rival group, give them 5 minutes and you will see you will not be the only Baqiyyah around.
Of course it also reflects in the ground. IS leaders have total confidence in one another, something that calls attention on their leadership structure is that they don’t always need to ask for permission from their superiors.
Bias infection: Ofc the bad point in this support is that, if you don’t support them, you are directly classified as Kuffar, Sahawat or Murtad. Because you know, there is no “muslim” option cuz to be muslim you should be part of the fanclub.
On the other hand, we see a lack of support coming from rebel side, groups not always agree between themselves and when disagreed, they simply fight each other…
Of course cuz there isnt anything more logical to do.
As the case of Nusrah and Ahrar, two strong groups that unfortunatelly have different perspectives and opinions and instead of leaving all this behind and fight for the same cause, they decided to just start some fitnah until they realised it was bringing nothing to nowhere. Alhamdulillah Allah opened their eyes.
As for their online community, we notice a weak support from their side. They don’t really interact with eachother, what makes their community smaller, since they don’t really take the chance to get to know eachother. Different than IS people, we can say that they are not so LOUD.
Also they don’t really have a whole “market campaign” to gather support, online or physically, nor they are as accessible as IS are. Which make it difficult to people to reach them and have more contact to the situation the group are facing.
When it’s about advises, Islamists supporters are more reserved than IS people and don’t really advise their friends/followers as much as IS do, which is sad because there are lots of knowledgeable people out there . IS on the contrary loves to comment on things and point your mistakes out to correct you, sometimes even in a kind of brute way, but anyways, advises are always welcome….
On the other hand, the fact that IS supporters speak too much, doesn’t mean that they have knowledge about topics, in many moments, they just speak out of ignorance instead of reamining silent about the issue.
Islamists are more quiet regarding talking about what they know not, and most of the time they prefer to shorten the topic by saying “I don’t know” or not even commenting at all.
The way they answer is also another issue, Baqiyyah people are always so excited and ready to answer that doesn’t matter what the group does, they will always go wild praising them, what makes them sounds childish most of the times. Now, islamists supporters are much more contained, they don’t go out jumping around when something happens, instead they keep the formalite, since its all about a war, not about a play.
We also rarely see Islamists supporters commenting, discussing or even questioning group’s actions, they are more silent, while in IS community any topic turns into a whole thread where people give their points of view, ask questions, etc. They don’t only interact with eachother but also participate somehow. Sometimes even some mujahideen appear to answer some questions and make themselves available, bringing the reality of the ground to the thread.
While in the Islamists side, mujahideen not always interact with supporters and not always discuss things.
Comparing IS to other groups, jihadists and non jihadists, in the global history, they are probably the most sociable, until now we had that far sight of fighter/soldier, since in our perpective, they didn’t have much time to spend outside the battlefield/engaging war affairs. IS on the other hand take their time to be “charismatic” to whoever wants to listen to them.
How right or wrong this “not so formal” IS approach is, nobody knows, it’s probably the first time that fighters have contact with “outsiders” the way IS does and for sure it makes us feel like part of their community, this indeed brought them not only attention but also support.
Other islamists groups prefer to take things more professional(?) and ended up not giving so much attention to their supporters . But maybe they need to start opening their minds and hearts, I don’t mean regarding supporters only, but to other islamists groups. They are stronger together than fighting each other and if they really unit themselves, they will for sure have more chances.
Maybe they just need some dialogue.
And remember, fight for the sake of Allah, to make His words the highest, not for groups.
Of course it also reflects in the ground. IS leaders have total confidence in one another, something that calls attention on their leadership structure is that they don’t always need to ask for permission from their superiors.
Bias infection: Ofc the bad point in this support is that, if you don’t support them, you are directly classified as Kuffar, Sahawat or Murtad. Because you know, there is no “muslim” option cuz to be muslim you should be part of the fanclub.
On the other hand, we see a lack of support coming from rebel side, groups not always agree between themselves and when disagreed, they simply fight each other…
Of course cuz there isnt anything more logical to do.
As the case of Nusrah and Ahrar, two strong groups that unfortunatelly have different perspectives and opinions and instead of leaving all this behind and fight for the same cause, they decided to just start some fitnah until they realised it was bringing nothing to nowhere. Alhamdulillah Allah opened their eyes.
As for their online community, we notice a weak support from their side. They don’t really interact with eachother, what makes their community smaller, since they don’t really take the chance to get to know eachother. Different than IS people, we can say that they are not so LOUD.
Also they don’t really have a whole “market campaign” to gather support, online or physically, nor they are as accessible as IS are. Which make it difficult to people to reach them and have more contact to the situation the group are facing.
When it’s about advises, Islamists supporters are more reserved than IS people and don’t really advise their friends/followers as much as IS do, which is sad because there are lots of knowledgeable people out there . IS on the contrary loves to comment on things and point your mistakes out to correct you, sometimes even in a kind of brute way, but anyways, advises are always welcome….
On the other hand, the fact that IS supporters speak too much, doesn’t mean that they have knowledge about topics, in many moments, they just speak out of ignorance instead of reamining silent about the issue.
And Allah says in the Quran,
And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart - about all those [one] will be questioned. (al-Isra’ 17:36)
Islamists are more quiet regarding talking about what they know not, and most of the time they prefer to shorten the topic by saying “I don’t know” or not even commenting at all.
The way they answer is also another issue, Baqiyyah people are always so excited and ready to answer that doesn’t matter what the group does, they will always go wild praising them, what makes them sounds childish most of the times. Now, islamists supporters are much more contained, they don’t go out jumping around when something happens, instead they keep the formalite, since its all about a war, not about a play.
We also rarely see Islamists supporters commenting, discussing or even questioning group’s actions, they are more silent, while in IS community any topic turns into a whole thread where people give their points of view, ask questions, etc. They don’t only interact with eachother but also participate somehow. Sometimes even some mujahideen appear to answer some questions and make themselves available, bringing the reality of the ground to the thread.
While in the Islamists side, mujahideen not always interact with supporters and not always discuss things.
Comparing IS to other groups, jihadists and non jihadists, in the global history, they are probably the most sociable, until now we had that far sight of fighter/soldier, since in our perpective, they didn’t have much time to spend outside the battlefield/engaging war affairs. IS on the other hand take their time to be “charismatic” to whoever wants to listen to them.
How right or wrong this “not so formal” IS approach is, nobody knows, it’s probably the first time that fighters have contact with “outsiders” the way IS does and for sure it makes us feel like part of their community, this indeed brought them not only attention but also support.
Other islamists groups prefer to take things more professional(?) and ended up not giving so much attention to their supporters . But maybe they need to start opening their minds and hearts, I don’t mean regarding supporters only, but to other islamists groups. They are stronger together than fighting each other and if they really unit themselves, they will for sure have more chances.
Maybe they just need some dialogue.
Aleppo was a good example of a place that could be in a different situation today if groups had united before. The assault happened at the same time as an “agreement” that was going on between groups, which Nusrah and Ahrar agaaain couldn’t agree at first, so while they were trying to figure out some points, the Regime was preparing the attack.
Unfortunately it seems like Islamists groups are more interested in compete with each other than actually unite each other to achieve a goal that is common to all of them. They should bear in mind that this fight is not about Power but about to liberate a whole country and its people.
Insha Allah with this Aleppo offensive things will change.
Islamists groups have been facing a huge loss of commanders during these previous months, its comprehensive that a loss of a senior local commander destabilizes and brings disunity to the already volatile situation on the ground.
Unfortunately it seems like Islamists groups are more interested in compete with each other than actually unite each other to achieve a goal that is common to all of them. They should bear in mind that this fight is not about Power but about to liberate a whole country and its people.
Insha Allah with this Aleppo offensive things will change.
Islamists groups have been facing a huge loss of commanders during these previous months, its comprehensive that a loss of a senior local commander destabilizes and brings disunity to the already volatile situation on the ground.
And that’s exactly what the enemy wants, destabilization causes disunity, that’s what Russia and Iran Military advisors were planning with its strategic pivoting. So that’s the moment to do exactly the opposite, to be strong, and to strengthen the union.
It’s a fact that everybody wants to rule, but first things first, what matter now is to free Shaam and take Bashar out of the power.
Well, the point here is not to offend groups by pointing out their mistakes, but highlight some points that in MY point of view could be improved.
In my opinion: Yes groups can be more humble to each other (im not talking about mujahideen individually, im talking about groups as a whole). They need to focus on the support they receive and fortify their communities. They do need to be more open and have more dialogue, pointing out good points and points to improve of each group. You are all brothers, you should advise each other and accept the advises of others as well.
It’s a fact that everybody wants to rule, but first things first, what matter now is to free Shaam and take Bashar out of the power.
Well, the point here is not to offend groups by pointing out their mistakes, but highlight some points that in MY point of view could be improved.
In my opinion: Yes groups can be more humble to each other (im not talking about mujahideen individually, im talking about groups as a whole). They need to focus on the support they receive and fortify their communities. They do need to be more open and have more dialogue, pointing out good points and points to improve of each group. You are all brothers, you should advise each other and accept the advises of others as well.
Afterall, all groups have a common factor on the ground: Fighting the Regime and libertating Syria (InshaAllah).
And remember, fight for the sake of Allah, to make His words the highest, not for groups.
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